The Dollmaker is clearly acquainted with the Evil Overlord list. A quick glance at the first 100 items show at least three that this situation applies to. In short: If you have a prisoner you don’t need, killing them quickly is usually the most practical course of action. Especially if you CAN make use of their corpse.
Kaci on July 24, 2013 at 3:12 AM
Syncline on July 24, 2013 at 9:19 AM
I can’t decide if those are white streaks in the hair or not, but if this is Dion, things can only get worse from here.
I thought the coroner would be bad….
Syncline on July 24, 2013 at 9:21 AM
That wasn’t clear. Let’s rephrase: ‘… if this is Dion or his kin…’
Princess Puffy Pants on July 24, 2013 at 11:47 AM
Ok, so in which comic was the statement “The Dollmaker is a previously-introduced character?” Because between the comments and the forum, the discussion has all been “It could be the Coroner!” (Dead) “It could be Timmy Malkin!” (Dead) “It could be Dion” (Dead) “or his kid” (Nonexistent.) Only one person has seemed to grok the notion that “It’s a NEW CHARACTER.” You know, like EVERY OTHER PERSON in his arc has been so far? Since it’s the future? Since the setting, like the real world, has a practically limitless number of people in it?
Dion seems the be the current most popular. Let’s compare, shall we?
Ways in Which The Dollmaker and Dion MaNatta are Different
Dollmaker is Dollmaker, and Dion is Poison
Dollmaker is largely unknown, while the Hero Agency has full records on Poison
Dollmaker’s powers are animating inanimate objects. Poison’s powers are telepathy and TK
Dollmaker talks with his mouth, Dion always spoke telepathically.
Dollmaker is a villain who kills civilians and heros casually. Dion was a hero who only started killing bad guys in revenge after an emotional break.
THEY DON’T LOOK LIKE THE SAME PERSON. They have different face shapes, different feature shapes, different skin and eye colorings. They are different races.
They live OVER TWO HUNDRED YEARS APART. It has never been stated, suggested, or hinted that Dion is immortal. It’s not in the comic, the bio from family week, or the cast page. There is literally NO REASON why he could still be around.
Ways in which The Dollmaker and Dion MaNatta are the same
They both have black, curly hair. Except that Dion has white streaks in his, so no, that doesn’t work, either.
And there’s no reason to think that this person is related to Dion anymore than there is to think he’s related to ANY OTHER person. Dion doesn’t HAVE children. They would have been mentioned in their family week bio if they existed. They would have been at the funeral. He would have had people to live for instead of throwing his life away hunting the coroner after his twin died. Now he’s in prison, and do you really think he’s gonna get out to start making babies? He killed over a dozen people.
So…no. They are not the same.
Syncline on July 26, 2013 at 10:03 PM
Take a breath occasionally.
Princess Puffy Pants on July 27, 2013 at 1:01 AM
So by targeting a perceived tone instead of offering contradictory evidence, you’re one step above an ad hominem attack, but still two steps below an actual counter argument. All it really does is illustrate that you don’t actually HAVE a legitimate counter argument so you have to resort to trying to deflect the discussion with personal attacks.
If you wanted to stay classy, you could have said something like “those are good points,” or “I see where you’re coming from.” Or just not said anything. Or I guess you could have done an internet flounce like that guy down there, but that might be a bit much.
Chaos on July 29, 2013 at 9:27 PM
No, Princess Puffy Pants, I think that Syncline’s comment was more of a reaction to the wall’o’text that you unleashed, with quite the irritated undertone.
That being said, thank you for what points that you did make because I too was in line with thinking that this villain was someone that we may have seen or has some relation to someone we’ve seen before.
waywardSMTH on July 24, 2013 at 3:13 PM
Jesus, what a harsh way to go.
I guess maybe the association with Poison might be the hair and he could have some Japanese blood in him from 200 years back but, examining Lore’s drawing style, he doesn’t really have the facial features that she usually uses to show that a person is Asian.
Arkrite on July 26, 2013 at 5:39 AM
Welp, I’m done.
I’m sick and tired of this nonsense in hero comics.
Years ago if the girl was caught by the badguys the heroes would enact a heroic last minute rescue to prove that they’re heroes.
Now days? The villain murders somebody horrifically to prove their evil. And I’m tired of it.
I won’t be reading anymore.
MalkavianMarine on July 28, 2013 at 1:45 AM
No. Stop. Don’t go…
laura on July 26, 2013 at 1:52 PM
I’m sorry you feel that way. However, there are a few things that you should perhaps understand that are happening here.
It doesn’t matter that she is a woman (not a ‘girl’, anyway). She happens to be female because I have a choice of drawing background characters male or female and in this scene I drew the one male and the other female. The Dollmaker had already killed him, but that character’s death did not seem to illicit disgust.
Second, this woman is not just a girl to be rescued. She is/was a costumed hero who, exhausted and defeated, was not able to defend herself in the end. She was killed just as the rest of her team was killed before her.
If the real issue is that she is a woman being killed and this page shows violence against woman, I have to wonder why it is you find that a woman’s death is more offensive than a man’s death. It’s a rather archaic idea that a woman’s death is more tragic and feeds into the idea that women have to be protected while men have to spend their lives for them. Woman weren’t allowed into the armed forces for many years for this reason. Women must be protected while men can be tossed away in war or battle. This leads to the idea that a woman’s life is more precious than a man’s life. And that simply isn’t true. Life is life. To have true equality between the sexes is not only to allow women to have the same freedoms as men but also be sure that the lives of men are equal in value and not less than the lives of women.
We try to write this comic along the terms that there are differences between men and women and even between different people within the same sex, but at a point we like to show that these two sexes can actually be interchangeable as characters because they are, in our minds, equal.
That said, I wish you luck in your future for finding the sort of comics you enjoy.
RedMattis on July 26, 2013 at 3:28 PM
@Laura
It’s nice to hear that such mature and sensible people are writing the comic. 🙂
*Applauds*
Chaos on July 29, 2013 at 9:29 PM
@Laura
Well said! I may be chivalrous in nature, however you made an excellent argument and I have to agree!
mrtt on July 28, 2013 at 7:34 PM
No monologue? No wonder he is winning!
Yeah now I REALLY think Dion relative ô_ô